Ooh I re-watched that recently along with "Utopia" and Jack's 5 eps from season 1 so I could get his voice in my head - for all the good it did since I ended up writing my 1913 EPIC instead !
The trouble with watching Utopia and SoD though, is that I want Jack/Martha NAO !!!
I love that episode too. I rewatched the other day (and have actually considered rewatching the trilogy tonight as I am out of town for work and BORED), and GOD, how excited was I when it first came on? :D I love it.
What is not to love? You've got Hot Gallifreyan Phone Sex, the Master being genuinely cracktastic and the Doctor, Jack and Martha sitting about drinking tea.
When the Master threw his screwdriver in the air and Rogue Traders started blaring as the sky split apart I think I split my face apart grinning. Some people don't appreciate the more absurd like that, but I FUCKING LOVE IT.
Objectively, I don't really think it's the best of the series' episodes, but damned if it isn't my favorite anyway. I was in classic fandom first. I admire Delgado above all others. I have the street cred or whatever to say that I fucking love this batshit!Master.
I actually watched it with my mum, and at one point I turned round and said 'He is so batshit, I love him.' Which of course meant many questions as to what 'batshit' actually means.
I have learnt to squint past the bad parts, and just focus on all the awesome. Because really, it's not nearly as bad an episode as fandom wants it to be.
Oh God no, I agree. It is really rather good in places. My issues aren't even Martha related. Its Gollum!Doctor and Tinkerbell!Doctor I have a problem with. I even like Martha's exit. I know others have problems with it, but on reflection I think it's a beautiful scene.
I have decided that Gollum! and Tinkerbell! are mostly attempts to piss off fandom, and thus I have decided to be contrary and not actively hate them. As cracked out versions of a fevered dream (which is what I think they are), they're quite entertaining.
Martha's exit took me so completely by surprise the first time that I didn't really notice all the subtle nuances layered in it. Once I got past that, there's just so much to see and appreciate in it - Ten's desperate attempt at just moving on from the end of the world, Martha standing up for herself, Ten's quiet look of devastation as he hugs her goodbye, but not letting her see it because he doesn't do emotions like that, Martha throwing him the phone and his smile of relief as he realises that she's coming back some time in the future... I think it's one of my favourite scenes now.
A lot of fandom didn't like that scene at all because they felt that Martha deserved more. It would have been nice for her to see the look on Ten's face, I agree but I'm kinda happy knowing how shitty he felt.
That scene is one of, if not my absolute, favourite Martha moment. She is so strong to walk away - OMG I LOVE HER!
Martha did deserve more, but this is the Tenth Doctor, the King of Denial. He seems to only ever acknowledge things after the fact. So I'm still angry at him for not just opening his stupid mouth, but I admire her so much for the way she handles it. No needling, no whining, no pouting, just head held strong, doing what she knows is the right thing to do. Martha's my girl.
I have so many favourite Martha moments, I can't even begin to count them. She really is made of awesome.
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Date: 2007-09-18 07:47 pm (UTC)The trouble with watching Utopia and SoD though, is that I want Jack/Martha NAO !!!
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Date: 2007-09-18 08:02 pm (UTC)Although, I have to admit that I paid special attention to the Master in this episode. Oh how I love him!
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Date: 2007-09-18 08:05 pm (UTC)I vote we send Rusty begging letters by the bushel ! ^_~
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Date: 2007-09-18 08:09 pm (UTC)but Freema finished Torchwoods filming last week or so :(.(no subject)
Date: 2007-09-18 08:12 pm (UTC)Fuckity, fuck, fuck!I guess we shall just have to make do with fics then !!
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Date: 2007-09-18 08:33 pm (UTC)BEST. EPISODE. EVAR.
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Date: 2007-09-18 08:38 pm (UTC)When the Master threw his screwdriver in the air and Rogue Traders started blaring as the sky split apart I think I split my face apart grinning. Some people don't appreciate the more absurd like that, but I FUCKING LOVE IT.
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Date: 2007-09-18 09:18 pm (UTC)*happy sighs*
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Date: 2007-09-19 11:39 am (UTC)Martha's exit took me so completely by surprise the first time that I didn't really notice all the subtle nuances layered in it. Once I got past that, there's just so much to see and appreciate in it - Ten's desperate attempt at just moving on from the end of the world, Martha standing up for herself, Ten's quiet look of devastation as he hugs her goodbye, but not letting her see it because he doesn't do emotions like that, Martha throwing him the phone and his smile of relief as he realises that she's coming back some time in the future... I think it's one of my favourite scenes now.
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Date: 2007-09-19 11:54 am (UTC)That scene is one of, if not my absolute, favourite Martha moment. She is so strong to walk away - OMG I LOVE HER!
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Date: 2007-09-19 12:29 pm (UTC)I have so many favourite Martha moments, I can't even begin to count them. She really is made of awesome.
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