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... I get what Freema meant by this:

I think what they've done - which is quite out of character - is deviate from the formula. It's more about the regulars, and something happens that affects them more on a personal basis.


Holy heck.

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Date: 2009-04-06 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
I'm going to be biting my nails until I see this episode; I've been speculating on this for a week now, and your post isn't making me any more comfortable.

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Date: 2009-04-07 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicallaw.livejournal.com
I was waiting til you saw it before I replied. It was tough to sit through wasn't it. I wish they hadn't ended the first run there, but I suppose it makes a lot of dramatic sense.

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Date: 2009-04-07 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
Definitely tough to watch and quite a bit to process, even though I knew what was coming. That second scene in the office just--ugh.

Interesting reactions in the L&O comms (esp. the thread at louk_mattdevlin).

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] zauberer-sirin.livejournal.com
i was too disturbed by the episode (because it was Freema, i guess) and kept switching channels to Heroes. i don't think i can rewatch it.

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicallaw.livejournal.com
It was so hard to sit through, I don't blame you. I still feel sick.

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] zauberer-sirin.livejournal.com
also on top of all the disturbing of the case, i am so easily disturbed when it comes to police's bias and wrongful proceedings and there was a bit of that in the ep (& hinted in other eps, which is why the "law" part always unsettles me) and i couldn't condone it, even if it was for Alesha; police brutality is my ultimate squick.

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelfireeast.livejournal.com
I can't wait because I've been worrying about that quote from Freema ever since I read it. What happened? Please spoiler me!

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicallaw.livejournal.com
I won't give too much away, but Alesha's raped by her gynaecologist. It's really disturbing, but a great hour of television.

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Oh, damn. I remember seeing that episode of the American version and, yeah. :-(

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com
Hi! interrupting as I'm freaking out. Do you rememeber what ep of the American version it was???

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Date: 2009-04-07 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Google says it was called "Helpless" and was broadcast in 1993; the character was Elizabeth Olivet, a psychologist for the DA's office. (And if I hadn't vaguely remembered her name was Elizabeth something, I would never have been able to find that out; thank you, scattershot memory.)

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Date: 2009-04-07 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com
Thanks for looking it up. Gonna attempt to watch it soon. :/

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Date: 2009-04-07 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelfireeast.livejournal.com
:( that's terrible. I don't even have words:(

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] marah-sarie.livejournal.com
Yeah. They weren't kidding on the "contains scenes that some viewers may find disturbing" warning.

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicallaw.livejournal.com
When they said it again after the ad break, I was like, 'Well, we've seen that bit, surely?' I was so wrong.

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Date: 2009-04-06 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com
OMG! I'm kind of afraid to watch it! (Does she survive at least?)

Also do you remember the name of the ep it's based on? I'm racking my brain as to this ever happening on the original, and I can't recall anything exactly like it. Certainly there has been a fair share of ADA dramatic incidents, but yeah. This sounds...*whistles*

(Ok, I was gonna use my icon of Martha that says "fight them till you can't" and now I think that's a bit ironic and rather inappropriate!)

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Date: 2009-04-06 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
Jumping threads--it's "Helpless," I believe. The psychiatrist (Dr. Olivet) is the one who's raped in that episode. I thought it might be the one they'd based this one on and watched it last week.

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Date: 2009-04-06 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com
Ah! Thanks for clarifying. I was going through ADAs trying to make a connection but no dice. You are wise to do the research. I was just under the impression that this UK one was an ep titled after Alesha and I feared the usual L&O disposals of the lady prosecutors. Obv this is different!

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Date: 2009-04-06 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
When I heard the synopsis and that the ep was called "Alesha," I went straight to the ADAs too, but when I realized which ep it actually was, I got a little sick cause I figured that Alesha would be the one raped.

Lady prosecutors--I did a post about this on my LJ last week, and, yeah, they have a hard time of it!

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Date: 2009-04-06 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com
They really do! Somehow I figured they'd give Alesha the backstory of someone like the Angie Harmon ADA. Cuz it's easier to have it happen ages ago and I didn't think they'd ever let it happen for the character in the present. Clearly Chibnall has more balls than I realized.

I really shouldn't be talking about men and balls or anything like that as it's disrespectful to Alesha. :(

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Date: 2009-04-06 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
I haven't seen the episode yet, and I'm most curious to see how much of the Olivet story they follow here; if they do all of it, Chibnall wins for balls, because that was a really, really troubling episode from a number of angles.

It's been interesting to see her character develop, because it's felt at times that she's been a blend of Paul Robinette and Claire Kincaid, the ADAs for the episodes that have been sourced for the show (I'm a long-time L&O fan). This adds a very different element to her story and places it in a very problematic space (as far as further episodes go--how does she "recover" and practice?).

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Date: 2009-04-07 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollywoodgrrl.livejournal.com
(as far as further episodes go--how does she "recover" and practice?).
Hmm. I hope it makes her take her exam because I want to see her do justice and also wear a wig, lol.

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Date: 2009-04-06 10:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
Oh God. I even got permission from the flatmates to download this during peak time (we have a strict quota), but now I'm scared.

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Date: 2009-04-07 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
If it's anything like the original episode, it will be triggering (I say this having never been sexually assaulted). Just a warning.

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Date: 2009-04-07 12:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I found the visuals were over too quickly to get a response from me, but the audio track on the video Alesha makes was decidedly freaky.

Still don't think I'll be capping that scene, though.

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Date: 2009-04-07 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicallaw.livejournal.com
Thank you. I did half expect people to make icons or something. I hope no one's that stupid.

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Date: 2009-04-07 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I'm betting we'll have the first Alesha Recovers From The Trauma By Having Sex With James fic within 24 hours.

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Date: 2009-04-07 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magicallaw.livejournal.com
Yup, had that thought too. Oh, fandom...

Of course, this episode has completely jossed my fic that I was working on. I knew I should have finished it before last night's episode.

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Date: 2009-04-07 06:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lizbee.livejournal.com
I'm glad I'm not the only person swearing she'll never watch another ep of the show again. *clings*

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Date: 2009-04-07 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fourzoas.livejournal.com
Thread-jumping (oh, insomnia, the things you make me do): with you on the jossed fic, but am curious about how people might use fic to make sense of the episode. Not ready to see what [livejournal.com profile] lizbee is referencing, though.

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Date: 2009-04-07 10:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
This was a very dark episode and Freema was great in it Wish it was on next week so we could see the affect on them all

There was one moment of lightnes however when someone said of Freema's character "She's got a thing for doctors"

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